Belated Observation

[molotov889]

Ok, I know I'm REALLY late on this, but I just got my shipments from Yesasia today. One of the CDs I bought was Synergy, and I just have to say that I was really impressed with the packaging. I thought it was pretty creative how they did the whole flipping thing so the CD cover ended up peeking out. That CD and Globe's Outernet were definately the best presented in the 14 CDs I bought .

That's all. You guys can go on discussing some actual NEW Move stuff.

[Joseph]

Synergy is really good. I wish Move continued in that style.

I've thought about getting Outernet ever since it came out, but I never did. I liked the single versions of Tonikaku Mushou ni, The Main Lord and Throwin' Down the double 0. Let me know what you think of it.

[molotov889]

Well, I'm actually listening to it right now!!!

I was surprised to find out that some of the versions of songs I had dled weren't the CD versions (Throwin' Down In The Double O, The Main Lord, Don't Look Back, Like A Prayer- guess I had the single versions), but I still find it really enjoyable. Personally, I find it interesting to listen to because it's like the CD showcases their transition between the Lights CDs style to Level 4's style. It's a good middle-ground.

I had never heard Tonikaku before, but I personally think I liked the single version of Throwin' Down In The Double O better than this CD's version, but it's still good.

[Joseph]

Yeah, that's kinda why I didn't buy it. I found out the album versions were not as good as the single versions. Hm, I might have to resort to buying the singles and the album. I haven't decided yet.

Have you heard the single version of Try This Shoot?? Man, that is a good song! The album version lost some of its original impact.

[molotov889]

Yeah, that's actually one of my favorites by them. You're right, though, the single version definately has more umph to it. I don't know if I wanna go down the road of buying all the singles, though. Lots of money, and they all only have like 5 songs max. Besides, if I'm not mistaken, the majority of Globe's singles are maxi singles, so you can't play them in car audio systems.

Oh... and to me, if you want a REALLY good song from Globe, you head straight for Genesis Of Next. ;D

[Joseph]

Yeah, I see your point about it being expensive. Still, nothing wrong with just getting those singles I mentioned (which are less than $10 each at YA). I don't know if I can only settle for only the album versions and nothing else. Oh well, I won't worry about it right now. I'll have to see how much I spend on other things next year.

I have the single versions of Tonikaku and Try This Shoot on my mom's computer. I always listen to them when I go back home!

None of the Jpop maxi-singles I've ever bought were a different size CD. I think maybe some of them used to be that way in the 90s, but I haven't seen that too much lately.

Try This Shoot has been one of my favourite Globe songs too. When that song came out, I used to say "try this, try this.." to myself. Whenever someone said "try" or "this," I thought about the song.

[molotov889]

Wow. That's some pretty hardcore fandom there.

I think I'd be more willing to buy singles if there weren't so many full albums I still want. And if I didn't just realize that I may have overspent a little on my last YA shipment. But that's a whole other story.

This is a bit off-topic, but browsing around, I've read a lot of people complain that they didn't like Lights 2... like at all. Rave reviews for Lights, but almost noone likes Lights 2. I don't really understand that. Sure it's a much mellower album, but there are a lot of great tracks on Lights 2 that are really complex in their structure (especially instrumentals). I found it at least as enjoyable to listen to as Lights. ::shrug:: That could just be me, though.

[Joseph]

Yes, the overall customer rating for Lights 2 seems to be lower than Lights 1. One Japanese review said the impact was a little weak for the second one, and I think that's what several other people thought as well.

I liked Lights 2 better because it has mellow songs, so you can listen to the whole album without having to brace yourself, so to speak. I really like it; it sounds sort of like lullabies. As I said in my YA review, the instruments in Lights 2 seem to be better structured too, though I really like Lights 1 as well. Knockin' on the Door of my heart had been my favourite Globe song... until I got Level 4.

When I played Lights 2, my dad said he liked the music. Twice. Once while playing Hitorigoto, and once while playing Starting from here, I think.

[Joseph]

Since this is a discussion about Globe, I moved this thread here.

I'm on my mom's computer right now, and I just discovered I also have the single versions of Genesis of Next and Many Classic Moments! I also have two Outernet songs here-- Outernet and Garden. A treasure trove of Globe songs.

Anyway, the problem with the album versions of the singles is they seem to be missing instruments. The single ver of Many Classic Moments has this cool zooming sound that the album version is missing. The album versions of Genesis of Next and Try This Shoot start off on the wrong foot-- they are without any real instruments at the beginning, whereas the single versions get right into the action right away.

Also, the album ver of Try This Shoot is just unstructured... and it has too many parts at the beginning, middle, and end where it goes too long without instruments.

How a song starts is one of the most important aspects of judging the entire song.

All I'm saying is we should keep the singles in the back of our mind somewhere.

[molotov889]

Haha, yeah. Seems I keep bringing them up. Sorry for it becoming an inconvenience (being in the wrong section).

But congrats on finding all the Globe music. You won't be wanting for something good to listen to for a while. ;D

For me, hearing the album versions after hearing the single versions hasn't been to bad. I kind of like the way it's almost like I'm hearing a completely new version. I think the long sections of missing instrumentals is pretty much a signature Globe style, though. It kind of matches the calm, cool, refined style they were trying to convey. (Level 4 seems to be a shift away from this, though).

Again, I agree that the single version of Try This Shoot is a lot better, but that's really the only song where I can say I was actually dissapointed in the album version.

P.S. We should start a Globe board
(J/K, I don't think I have the time, and I'm sure this board already eats up your free time.)

[Joseph]

True; other than the missing parts of Try This Shoot, the majority of that song isn't that different. Same with Many Classic Moments. But I think I've already clarified where I stand on single versions.

One thing about Globe is their songs vary in length so much. "Inside" is especially long. On the opposite end of the spectrum is Rina Aiuchi, who is very controlling when it comes to song length. On her first album Be Happy, it's like she was trying to make most of her songs precisely 4 minutes and 20 seconds. lol.

Heh, I just signed up for a Yahoo group about Globe (group name: globeonline). Probably shouldn't have though. It's not active. There's only been one post there in the last 2½ years, and the post wasn't even about Globe!

You weren't here when this happened, but a few months ago, somebody claiming to be Richard left a review of Seize the Light on YesAsia, saying that Globe was better than Move. He said something like he was pretending to like Move or something on this board, when he actually liked Globe. When we found out about this review, it sort of shocked the members. Richard denied writing it.

Anyway, the reviewer turned out to be some anonymous blockhead who was impersonating Richard. We all forgave each other. Richard already doesn't like Globe, but I think he got especially irksome when someone impersonated him regarding Globe.

Using my persuasion techniques, I succeeded in getting YesAsia to remove the false review, saying that it was identity theft with an intent to harm someone's name. So when I listen to Seize the Light, I just sort of respectfully remember what happened.

[Richard]

I've still got it. I was actaully asked to leave the forum after this incident. I will confirm though that I DID NOT write this, and to this day I do not know who did. I'm still waiting for the coward who did it to own up...

This band is awesome and this song is awesome!
OH MAN...after listening to this band, i never knew they were so amazing!! I am always a big fan of move and always thought Globe was a band that rip off the fans, especially TK but after listening to them...i can't believe i am saying this but Globe is actually better than move!! i can't believe it! And for all these years with move, i can't believe i am missing out! And all those people down at my forums think i am a big move fan...ha! dream on!! Globe rulz, move stink! And that's the bottom line!

[molotov889]

Wow.... that's actually really lame of that person. I mean, seriously, was he just bored?. He didn't get anything out of doing that. I don't understand people sometimes.

[Joseph]

molotov889 said:

Wow. That's some pretty hardcore fandom there.

Yes, the release of Try This Shoot was of pretty big Jpop historical significance to me. I even tried to do that backwards handstand like the TTS single cover art portrays.

Joseph said:

When that song came out, I used to say "try this, try this.." to myself. Whenever someone said "try" or "this," I thought about the song.

Now I'm starting to do it with The Box. (Money in the box! Trash in the box!) Someone said "the box" earlier today, so I needed to listen to The Box. Though it doesn't even compare with the impact Try This Shoot had.

I still say "Waitin' for ya baby", the line from TTS when I'm waiting. My favourite repetitive line from The Box is "Won't nobody tell me what to do?" The one for compass is "aruite kita no deshou."

I just realized this, but at the end of the third chorus in The Box, in the background Keiko says "My English is far from perfect." LOL, that song is funny.

[molotov889]

Okay, I'm going to throw this convo a little off track, so I apologize. Anyway, as I told you before, my big shipment of J-pop came in about 4 weeks ago, right before my big vacation. Anyway, I got to listen to all of it over and over again. I've become obsessed with Move's new style, but not nearly as much as the Worlds of The Mind album. It may be my favorite Move album.

But... on the subject of Globe... I came back COMPLETELY FLOORED by Lights 2. I cannot get enough of that CD. I'm even more awed by that one than Level 4. Especially the song Edge of Darkness (it's the one that starts off with some Moastic-Chant-sounding stuff.) The lyrics in that particular song are definately not it's focal pioint. However, the instrumentals are just INSANE. And earlier of in the CD, the song Knockin' On The Door Of My Heart is another "masterpiece"-worthy song.

Now... going back to their "old-school" music... I was really impressed with the Faces Places album. I had heard 90% of the songs on this album in one form or another, but I had heard surprisingly few of the originals, given how long they've been around. I love Anytime Smokin' Cigarette, just like you said in another thread. However, A Picture On My Mind is the song from this album that I just can't get out of my head. The chorus is so easily catchy that it stays with you.

If I think of anything else to say later, I'll let ya know .


Oh yeah, and the whole "In The Box" thing, I did that too. It got to the point where if I just thought about the Level 4 CD, I had no choice but to go home and listen to it as soon as I got there. Definately one of my favorite albums of all time.