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Post by Mystical Sand on Mar 13, 2007 22:35:25 GMT -5
Ehhh...
I don't know. Not all of m.o.v.e's fans can probably afford to buy all their music. I'm doing it cuz I want to, not because I feel some sort of obligation as a m.o.v.e fan to do so. It's great to support the band, but I don't know that people who download m.o.v.e's music are necessarily lesser fans. x . x;
At any rate, at least now there's a cheaper alternative for people with iPods. The shipping charges from Japan to the U.S. are killer. @__@
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Post by Variable on Mar 14, 2007 9:50:11 GMT -5
I find that actually buying a band's music, either on CD or through iTunes to be more honourable than just downloading them from WinMX or whatever.
It's like, "I love this band, but not enough to pay for their art."
The reason I've bought Move songs from iTunes (and other JP artists as well) to hopefully get the point across that people here like these bands too.
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Post by Mystical Sand on Mar 14, 2007 14:03:11 GMT -5
But again, not everyone can necessarily afford it. I don't know how old all m.o.v.e's fans are, or how many of them have a debit/credit card, or a job that pays well enough that they can afford imported CDs on top of all the other things they have to pay for, but everything's relative. Yeah, downloading the mp3s is kind of a cop out, but I don't think it makes people lesser fans.
Maybe that's just because for the first couple of years that I was into m.o.v.e, that was me. I was 15, I didn't have a job, I didn't have any money, but I had a computer with internet access. And I'm most certainly a m.o.v.e fan. Based on that, I'd be a hypocrite to pass judgment on anyone else who listens to their music that way.
As for right now, I use a Creative Zen mp3 player, so having the songs on iTunes doesn't help me in the slightest, because I can't listen that file format on my player. And I'm technologically incompetant, so I wouldn't know the first thing about converting the files to something else. And frankly, it'd be too much of an assache for me to try to do it.
Hooray for being lazy~
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Post by Variable on Mar 14, 2007 16:12:40 GMT -5
A. Tunebite changes iTunes format songs into .MP3s, ask about it.
B. You can get $15 iTunes cards at Wal-Mart. You buy the card, go to iTunes, input the number/codes, and you can get FIFTEEN songs with it. Wow. It's easy.
C. You're buying the CDs now (and going back and buying the older ones) BECAUSE you were that 15 year old kid downloading them indisciminantly. You had no other way to get your Move fix. But now, there's several paths open to you.
Like I said in A, Tunebite is an AWESOME program. Hit me up on AIM or whatever and I shall hook thee up, it's drag and drop, plug and play. Tune in, turn on, drop out. It's that easy.
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Post by Mystical Sand on Mar 14, 2007 22:18:18 GMT -5
A. Tunebite changes iTunes format songs into .MP3s, ask about it. B. You can get $15 iTunes cards at Wal-Mart. You buy the card, go to iTunes, input the number/codes, and you can get FIFTEEN songs with it. Wow. It's easy. C. You're buying the CDs now (and going back and buying the older ones) BECAUSE you were that 15 year old kid downloading them indisciminantly. You had no other way to get your Move fix. But now, there's several paths open to you. Like I said in A, Tunebite is an AWESOME program. Hit me up on AIM or whatever and I shall hook thee up, it's drag and drop, plug and play. Tune in, turn on, drop out. It's that easy. A. Kind of missed the point - I don't want to use iTunes stuff. B. See A. C. Actually, I'm buying them because m.o.v.e is my favorite band, which makes me want to own their stuff, and also, I intend to start a translation website someday, and it'd help a lot to have the lyric books. Yeah, there are other alternatives now. But there are also people who are still in the same boat as I was then, and then, gasp, there are people who actually would rather just download things off the internet than pay for them. That's kind of why it's still possible. I still do it myself sometimes. If that makes me a bad person, then yay, I'm a bad person. Getting cranky now, because I've gotten 6 hours of sleep in the last 3 days, am taking midterms, am sick of arguing/debating, and also am kind of offended by your calling people who download music bozos and the like, hence my feeling the need to defend my fellow bozos. Ending this conversation now.
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Post by Variable on Mar 15, 2007 14:44:03 GMT -5
*spins in his chair*
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Post by gav on Mar 17, 2007 1:28:50 GMT -5
Heres the thing. I would rather pay for dollar for the Cd because it is something physical, i can back it up, rip it how ever i want ect. But for iTunes,say i buy an ablum for 15 bucks. first it is not physical, and if suddenly your HD went dumb and broke, u have to call apple to reDownload all your song. Second, the Tunebite.. if the program strips the DRM off the song, im pretty sure it is illegal(need to check on this). If it does strip off the DRM, a non ipod user need to convert the ACC to mp3 or w/e. So... a person that cant buy CD are left with two options:
Download from itune, and use Tunebite, reconvert and load and paid money for crapy biterate
or Download it illegally for free and with crappy bitrate...
I beleive that you should pay money to support your artist but some people (used to be me) just cant afford it.
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Post by Variable on Mar 17, 2007 21:59:40 GMT -5
I've gone over the DMCA and it says that it's both legal and illegal to use a program like Tunebite. So I have no idea.
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Post by HeartlessCloud on Mar 17, 2007 23:32:03 GMT -5
So is it safe so say that DRM is a pain in everyone's butt, DMCA included? O.@
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Post by Mystical Sand on Apr 12, 2007 18:40:21 GMT -5
Hey, am I just blind or has the link to the official BBS gone missing?
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