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Post by Variable on Oct 11, 2006 12:28:47 GMT -5
I'm not trying to be depressing. Aren't you supposed to be the pessimistic one?
Have our roles been changed?
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Post by HeartlessCloud on Oct 11, 2006 18:15:41 GMT -5
How about no one starts rumors on a whim, and just wait to hear what comes up? It could very well be them gearing up for the big 10th, or they're just taking a break (hell, they could still be doing small touring).
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Post by Variable on Oct 11, 2006 21:21:38 GMT -5
We would know if they were touring, we're the ravenous rabid fans of doom. We don't do fade outs.
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Post by Mystical Sand on Oct 12, 2006 17:08:25 GMT -5
Really, because I never have any clue what they're doing around Japan. Being as how I can't read the site and all, and it's not like anyone posts their tour schedules up here.
I love Move to death, but I don't drive myself nuts trying to read kanji or the craptastic English that the online translators spit out in order to find out what's going on. My Move news comes from here and what little I can read of their official website.
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Post by Variable on Oct 14, 2006 15:28:14 GMT -5
I just looked at the official BBS and it looks like there's some kind of problem. This was translated by Alta vista a few minutes ago, it sounds like there's a problem with Avex or something. The gist I get is that Move is involved in some kind of contract dispute with Avex. Check it out, look at the BBS, see what you come up with.
TO: It is the same as the reason where is not this attitude new tune there is no renewal of the aria > sight and/or is not the intention which the > management other person and this official sight of avex is improved. Because is, the way it is not. > m.o.v.e. Three human groups of people probably are how to think this situation... almost you do not know, knowing, however it enters, is not possible at all, it is applicable to either one.
TO: It writes in at this of anonymity > time motsu being to be delightful,, but there is no renewal ever since that, requesting, because it had writing, is. Because it was not the intention which you write by your, it is helpless, is. The curator > here does what, it is? You do not do at all and, it seems that is not either the intention of doing. Being to send the mail to between avex this >, it does, but it is disregard? Naturally, it is ignored. It probably means that the official sight consists in the how circumstance where other than the writing in > motsu less than 2 months or more renews? Because there is a reason, being the case that it is left, the fact that the official sight is not turned off conversely is state of the surprise.
TO: You want and m.o.v.e how good it exists adds when, the eye affecting is existence for > avex. Because > avex is thought only money-making, what is not in the artist who is not sold it is. As for this a little by mistake it is. Because there is a certain reason, it does not do at all. To it should have moved somewhere from > avex. . . Whether or not it changes with > that, however it is not understood, because... there is contract, it is not possible. If > temporarily they more do not become measure, as for this circumstance directly > there is no ず, it is probably will be? Regrettable, cannot be becoming measure. Originally, because it is not to mean that member especially Kimura desires. Refraining if possible, that it receives, we ask private entry and the interchange of the fan there is no relationship "in the artist of BBS code. "Being to ignore altogether. If it is the curator absent, tearing the above-mentioned code, there is no problem and, the curator it appears with code violation, because it is the 壺 which this you think conversely w
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Post by Mystical Sand on Oct 14, 2006 18:31:58 GMT -5
Great, so basically what it sounds like is that Avex is being a money-grubbing pain in the ass and m.o.v.e. just wants to be allowed to do their own thing as usual. Didn't they have some dispute like this before, as well? Freakin' Avex, just leave them alone. x . x They ought to get enough money what with having all those other big-name singers/bands - Namie Amuro and Ayumi Hamasaki among them - they've got to allow the others some leeway. - . -
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Post by Variable on Oct 14, 2006 22:23:34 GMT -5
I've been trying to scour the Internet and find information on the subject. I've not found anything on the contract dispute other than what was posted on the Official BBS. But this is what I've discovered so far, assuming there is infact a contract dispute and that post that I translated was correct: Move wanted to break into the US market but there was a problem, the name "Move" was already trademarked for another band or something, so they changed to M.O.V.E, pronounced the same but bypasses the problem of copyright. From what I've read it seems that Move did in fact have plans to further invade the US after their two US concerts went well. Right now there's mention that there could be a contract dispute between Avex and Move (mainly T-Kimura). Right now I'm looking at Takashi Kimura's blog and seeing if I can find some information from it. Okay, as of the tenth of this month T-Kimura has a cold and loves renting the American TV show "24" from the Japanese equivalent of NetFlix. He also enjoys Dominos Pizza. He's also fond of YouTube.
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Post by Mystical Sand on Oct 14, 2006 23:09:58 GMT -5
My brain just exploded. Although that might be because I just tried to take the level 4 and 3 Japanese tests right in a row. Gave up on level 3 cuz I'm too tired to try and read it right now. Got a 95% on the level 4. This has no relevance to the topic whatsoever, I just like to show off.
So basically Move had the same problem trying to come into the U.S. as t.A.T.u sort of had? How they started out as TATY, then found out there was an Australian band with that name, so they switched it to t.A.T.u.? Blah. That's annoying. Easily fixed with little dots, but still annoying.
I've said it before, though, and I'll say it again - I really really hope they keep singing in Japanese and don't try to go exclusively English. I LIKE their Japanese music, damn it. XD; I wouldn't mind their getting more publicity in the U.S. and having them sing in English (although... ner... shut up, Liz), but I hope they keep singing in Japanese, too.
I hope it settles out well. I sure would like to go see them in concert someday. If they end up having to disband just cuz Avex is being mean about it, I will be very VERY angry, since I didn't get to go to their concerts in Texas or Virginia. >___<
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Post by molotov889 on Oct 14, 2006 23:43:47 GMT -5
Disagreements with record labels aren't what make groups disband. I think the worst you'll see of this is the group gets dropped by Avex. I think they'd prolly prettily easily be picked up by Sony or some other label. Maybe even Tofu records who seems to have a pretty strong intent of pushing into the American market. Who knows, maybe T Kimura's gotten to the point in his career where he thinks he can start his own label?
I don't know what kinda money they've been pulling in, but they've been around long enough that I think they could do their own thing if they really wanted to. I kinda think it would be cool if they hooked up with Tetsuya Komuro's studio, Rojam. I wonder what TK + TK would be like.
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Post by HeartlessCloud on Oct 16, 2006 19:30:45 GMT -5
It's like Avex has an issue with just about every one of their bands, I don't know why this surprises me (if, in fact, it's true). I always imagined that m.o.v.e was left to their own devices because they're a smaller group than, say, Do As Infinity or something-that because they're smaller but have a strong fan base, they were allowed to do their thing. [/dunno]
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Post by Variable on Oct 16, 2006 21:44:57 GMT -5
I read that BoA recently renewed her contract through 2008.
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